Badger Scholarship Chart

[Heavystarch]

[Heavystarch]

Let me know if anything looks bad or is wrong, and positions on here really do not matter

[Bernini]

Good job on the chart Heavy. Everything looks accurate upon first inspection outside of some minor mistakes, i.e.: spelling. Greg Stiemsma and Mike Bruesewitz. Looks like you fixed Nankivil. I highly doubt that Gullickson receives the open scholarship for 2008. It's much more likely that Wisconsin grants Morris Cain with the open ship, in essence banking it for a true scholarship player in 2009.

Your chart does an excellent job of illustrating how each of the next two classes for the Badgers will be relatively lean. Not great timing considering these our are strongest in state classes in a long time. It's also atypical of the program under Ryan to have an unbalanced amount of scholarships to be allotted each year. Spreading out the ships relatively equally ensures each year we will have a few seniors to lead the squad.

[marley26]

wow awesome...i appreciate this...tell me something...i have friends that played against jp gavinski (sp) and they said he's just tall and thats it...i know we really havent seen much of him at all but what do you guys think? thanks

[TroyD92]

Man the Bruewitz signing continues to look bad to me with our oppurtinuty to possibly have our best class in memory. With Wilson/Williams/White/Taylor group. Hey I hope im wrong but, I just dont know.

[BoKnowsBall]

I actually like the signing. He is a good glue guy at power forward and will go good with a class of Taylor/Jenkins at guard and then either Wilson or White at small forward. Now- I dont like our odds at the small forward position but I would love to be wrong. I think that we could end up taking someone whose name we haven't even heard of yet- that seems to be how things are with Bo.

[Bernini]

Originally Posted by TroyD92

Man the Bruewitz signing continues to look bad to me with our oppurtinuty to possibly have our best class in memory. With Wilson/Williams/White/Taylor group. Hey I hope im wrong but, I just dont know.

Well, if it makes you feel any better; Rodney Williams is a questionable qualifier and Minnesota fans are very confident about their ability to fend Bucky off now that they have Tubby at the helm. So we have to take what we can get, when we can get it.

Visa vie Gavinski: I've rarely heard anything positive about his abilities. I've seen him play a small portion of a game and my vague recollection was he was very awkward. He hasn't even received a single garbage time minute in three months, so we aren't urging to develop him in real game action. Not a great sign for his future at Wisconsin. I don't want to run anybody out of town who has shown loyalty to the Badgers, but.........

[komacki]

My apologies if I mess this up, it's my first time posting over here. Whoever OnWisconsin07 is pulled me over from Sportsline's message boards.

On the chart: Looks good to me. Hopefully we'll be able to add Diamond Taylor to it soon.

On the 1* schollie: It depends on what Gullikson's punishment actually is. If the punishment is sitting the rest of the year then he keeps it next year. He'll be a senior and he deserves it more than Mo Cain. If he's being dismissed from the team at the end of the year it will go to Cain (or Valentyn, but that's less likely) or to another commit that Bo picks up for next year (you guys know more about the possibility of that than me).

On Gavinski: He's big. He's awkward. He's got a terrible hook shot. That's really all you can say about him. He's the only miss that Bo has had in my memory (which is admittedly short), transfers not included. He won't see any significant playing time unless he makes significant improvements before he leaves. It's too bad, because from what I hear he's a really nice guy and the funniest one on the team.

[Heavystarch]

To go along with the JP comments, he is a really nice guy who shows a lot of team spirit (he has nicest towel waving form I have seen in some time). But as everyone else seems to think, he has a lot of progress to make before seeing minutes. I think something reasonable to shoot for would be something like Chappell - In other words maybe he will be a contributor in his senior season. I seen him play in the exhibition matches, where he showed sloppy hands and poor decisions - some of that could have been nerves - but seeing as Bo has not played him at all, and with the expectations of Leuer, Nankivil, Berggren and possibly Markolf all ahead of him in the depth chart for the next few years, we may never see JP on the floor. If he gives it his all in practice and makes the other guys better its hard to really complain. To have all 13 scholarship players be contributors is rare, and bigs are traditionally more hit and miss than at the other positions.

"Who just had that mean looking towel wave"
"That was JP on the figure eight"

[Bernini]

Gullickson deserves the scholarship more than Cain for his contributions on the court, but Cain has shown more of a regard for the opportunity and his teammates off the court. I don't have much of an issue principally with DUA's. However, he obviously doesn't value the scholarship very much to recklessly jeopardize it by committing acts which are against the law, and tarnish the school's reputation with the hyper-conservative (who do contribute money as well). He might remain on the team in a walk-on capacity, but he won't have a scholarship awaiting him.

Bo has made a mistake before - Jason Chappell. He had his moments his senior season, but was a liability down the stretch without Butch. Helmigk was a liability throughout his career. Unlike Gavinski though, they have very reasonable excuses having each suffered a blown knee.

[Heavystarch]

No matter who gets the schollie odds are it won't be on an '08 recruit, meaning the impact for our concerns is the same. The true shame is only having two available for '10, although I would be very surprised if we don't end up with three (attrition)

[TroyD92]

What is the 10' class going to look like with Blue, Davis, Anderson the more touted instaters and then a guy like Barnes who also seems like a bigtime prospect.Also wasnt there questions about Davis' grades or was that Maymon?

[Heavystarch]

As far as your grades question goes, I know that Maymon might have some academic issues getting into Madison (obviously Crean can float any boat). I do not know Davis's situation, although Wisco is a good high school so I would be surprised. Hope that helps

[TroyD92]

Originally Posted by Heavystarch

As far as your grades question goes, I know that Maymon might have some academic issues getting into Madison (obviously Crean can float any boat). I do not know Davis's situation, although Wisco is a good high school so I would be surprised. Hope that helps

Thats what I thought I met Flavien at a camp in Milwaukee a couple years ago he seemed to have a good head on his shoulders.

[Bernini]

I've never heard concerns about Flavien's grades. Maymon has been struggling with academics throughout high school according to reports.

There is still a long time until 2010 indeed. We had a player transfer from both the '04 and '05 classes. So a third scholarship could become available, making the picture a little less muddled. One of Anderson, Davis, and Blue; could go to Marquette. Barnes might only be giving people lip service saying he's even to appease others and extract more offers. Iowa State is possibly still the favorite and other high majors around the country will join the fray before it's all over. Some players will struggle with grades making our recruitment moot. To project at this early stage would be difficult. But a class like Evan Anderson, Vander Blue, and Flavien Davis would be reasonable to attain. The likelihood of those particular players coming to Wisconsin in descending order.