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I am gonna go out on a limb here and say Eric Lutz = Ebay.
Overall, this seems like it is going to be disheartening news for Badger fans. Looks like work isn't gonna be the only thing that makes Tuesday suck for me.
By the way, Ebay, you gonna be a journalism major? And if so, you wanna head back and redeem Wisconsin journalism for us in a few years? |
05-19-2009, 10:21 AM
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I was thinking the same thing when I read that article.
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I am gonna go out on a limb here and say Eric Lutz = Ebay.
Overall, this seems like it is going to be disheartening news for Badger fans. Looks like work isn't gonna be the only thing that makes Tuesday suck for me.
By the way, Ebay, you gonna be a journalism major? And if so, you wanna head back and redeem Wisconsin journalism for us in a few years?
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05-19-2009, 10:54 AM
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Haha correct, Eric Lutz does equal Ebay. Sorry I couldn't write on here, I got caught up writing that article. Vander said he is going to go into the details when he has this press conference tonight, so I'm not going to divulge into them. Actually, I'm not going into journalism right now. I was accepted into the College of Education at Minnesota and right now, plan on becoming a teacher. In the future, things could change of course, and since Mark Miller offered me the article, I have looked into the journalism major at Minnesota.
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No worries....you've been helpful in getting some facts about a situation that was quickly turned into fluff articles, empty declarations, and meaningless scrutiny. We've waited almost a week to get some insight on the situation, so we can wait another few hours.
Hopefully Vander realizes that among a majority of Wisconsin sports fans and alums, he is not "unwanted" at UW. As someone stated on another board, he is very much wanted at UW. And because of this, a lot of fans acted like immature kicking and screaming little kids that just got their favorite candy taken away from them.
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05-19-2009, 03:41 PM
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Well it looks like either way we will here his viewpoint on all of this at 5:30 tonight. If he sticks, you have to believe its for good, if he goes, maybe we can still get him back. We will see
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"I didn't think it was a big deal, the de-commitment," former Gopher verbal David Gilreath said. "I think this was the best decision of my life."
"(The University of Minnesota) didn't really compare," UW Kicker Taylor Mehlhaff said. "I loved the atmosphere here. It was pretty easy to cross (Minnesota) off the list. I wanted to play at the highest level possible but I also wanted to have that college atmosphere."
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05-19-2009, 06:20 PM
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Incase anyone is interested, WSN has a rep at the press conference tonight who is going to be tweeting (is that the right word?). See the link below.
Nicholas Kartos (wissportsnet) on Twitter |
05-19-2009, 06:37 PM
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Decommitted at press conference
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"I didn't think it was a big deal, the de-commitment," former Gopher verbal David Gilreath said. "I think this was the best decision of my life."
"(The University of Minnesota) didn't really compare," UW Kicker Taylor Mehlhaff said. "I loved the atmosphere here. It was pretty easy to cross (Minnesota) off the list. I wanted to play at the highest level possible but I also wanted to have that college atmosphere."
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05-19-2009, 06:38 PM
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Still will consider UW. Hopefully time can heal this wound, mostly done in by the damn press
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"I didn't think it was a big deal, the de-commitment," former Gopher verbal David Gilreath said. "I think this was the best decision of my life."
"(The University of Minnesota) didn't really compare," UW Kicker Taylor Mehlhaff said. "I loved the atmosphere here. It was pretty easy to cross (Minnesota) off the list. I wanted to play at the highest level possible but I also wanted to have that college atmosphere."
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05-19-2009, 06:38 PM
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No longer committed, but will consider UW.
Not looking good. Doubt Bo is gonna wait. Bad news.
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05-19-2009, 06:39 PM
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Hello Cam Wright
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"I didn't think it was a big deal, the de-commitment," former Gopher verbal David Gilreath said. "I think this was the best decision of my life."
"(The University of Minnesota) didn't really compare," UW Kicker Taylor Mehlhaff said. "I loved the atmosphere here. It was pretty easy to cross (Minnesota) off the list. I wanted to play at the highest level possible but I also wanted to have that college atmosphere."
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05-19-2009, 06:51 PM
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Unfortunately, I don't see Bo waiting around for Vander even if he is still considering UW. Bo sent that message loud and clear with the offer to Cameron Wright the day after the alleged "academic meeting" took place.
All I have to say is this....
It is what it is....let's not go ripping apart the kid. Let's either talk like adults about it and respect it as his decision or not talk about it at all. How Wisconsin and their fanbase reacts to this very well could influence the recruiting of in-state kids in the future. Let's be a respectful and classy fanbase.
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05-19-2009, 07:15 PM
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Thanks for the article, Eric.
How would about the 80 pieces written on him in the last week, numerous sports radio segments (when the only time they focus on recruiting is football signing day), and record breaking threads for post counts on message boards; make him feel like he's unwanted? He might genuinely feel unwanted, but I hardly think that's a rational response to all the focus he's received.
I can see being offended by the reports about his grade issues, but he did have a poor start to his high school career, which is why Bo suggested summer school last year, no? Then I'd assume this meeting wouldn't have occurred if it not for discussions on the issue before. To my knowledge the average recruit who has never been in poor standing does not have a meeting about his high school class selection and what he's required to do to avoid not qualifying. So it was partially true that there were concerns about his academics. But the reports afterward that he currently was in bad standing was apparently false. He should realize though that's just a pride thing to rationalize that it was of our choosing that he departed, instead of him rejecting us. Which is what actually occurred here. He was gone before the media scrutiny due to the style concerns and losing streak that Eric talked about earlier. He should just acknowledge that. I certainly wouldn't think less of him if he didn't like our style. I'd have similar concerns if I was a recruit and am a die hard Badger fan.
Hopefully he takes a step back to get some perspective, realizes that kind of damage control happens at every program and the initial academic problems were his own doing, continues to solidify his academic standing, analyzes Bo's style when he has more athletes at his disposal for the World University Games; and pre-early signing period or so re-evaluates the Wisconsin program. Although by then Cameron Wright may have scooped up the final scholarship.
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05-19-2009, 07:25 PM
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The way I see it is that the meeting was more of a preemptive strike then to fix a problem. They saw that he was on the same path as Maymon and wanted to try to get it fixed before he got in to deep like Maymon(frosh status after JR year). While he may have had thoughts of looking around, I think that this last bit of adversity was what pushed him over the edge.
The one thing to look at in terms of how the staff feels about him coming to UW(whether it be able to or willing to) is that the meeting happened on Monday and Wright was offered on Tues.
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05-19-2009, 07:31 PM
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The one thing to look at in terms of how the staff feels about him coming to UW(whether it be able to or willing to) is that the meeting happened on Monday and Wright was offered on Tues.
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All that really shows me is he voiced his concerns pretty clearly at the meeting and Bo stayed true to his M.O. that he's not going to sacrifice his pride and waste time begging anyone to come to Wisconsin gives indications he doesn't want to be here. |
05-19-2009, 07:50 PM
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Well my point was that if they felt that there was still a chance and that he just needed a cooling off period they wouldnt have turned right around and offered Wright. Now it could just be them playing hard ball too.
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05-19-2009, 08:01 PM
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You could call it Bo's pride, or a clash of egos, but what about the terms chemistry and culture? Maybe the two sides don't mesh the way you would like to see it happen. To play for Bo you can't have the ego or attitude (call it swagger) that many top flight recruits have. I think Coach K is going through the same thing at Duke right now; there are simply not many recruits anymore who want to redefine their game. They want to see how a their game fits a teams style, not how they can work their game into a team strategy. Coach Cal and Roy Williams are great at doing this, others *cough Bruce Pearl cough* can get the players but can't get them to play as a team. Tough to find the right balance. Just my personal thoughts on the situation
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"I didn't think it was a big deal, the de-commitment," former Gopher verbal David Gilreath said. "I think this was the best decision of my life."
"(The University of Minnesota) didn't really compare," UW Kicker Taylor Mehlhaff said. "I loved the atmosphere here. It was pretty easy to cross (Minnesota) off the list. I wanted to play at the highest level possible but I also wanted to have that college atmosphere."
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