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08-26-2008, 07:51 PM
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10' cant come fast enough
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Originally Posted by OnWisconsin07
I think Flavien is a great prospect. Granted, Mark Miller probably sees these kids more than we can and knows a thing or two about recruiting, it would seem that his rankings are based largely on how a kid is performing currently and not on future potential.
I am also going to go out there and say (based upon almost nothing) that I would think Flavien is reasonably interested in Wisconsin. You hear very little about him wanting to commit soon or even having any favorites. There is also the fact that he has visited Wisconsin's campus at least 2 (known) times. I am guessing that he knows Wisconsin's situation as far as scholarships go and he is also aware that scholarships tend to open up given time. Since he seems to be taking his TIME with recruitment, I would guess he is at least going to wait long enough to see if there is the option to end up at Wisconsin. He is also probably waiting in order to gather some more high-profile offers.
I would love to have him as the 3rd member of this class. I guess time will tell if we have a spot.
Does anyone know what Flavien's situation is as far as academics? At this point would he seem to be a qualifier?
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Milwaukee Lutheran is a very good school I wouldn't expect a jeronne maymon situation here.
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11-14-2008, 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Bernini
You'll get no argument from me.
While following the 2010 class they've almost unfolded like a power ranking and are heavily influenced by in state coaches, especially UW's.
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Originally Posted by TroyD92
I still say Flavien is the best player in Wisconsin regardless of year. He is a major player ive been too a camp with him and he is a great player and this was two years ago. IDK why Miller would put Flavien #9 are his ratings based on performance leading up too when he makes his rankings, because then I suppose I could understand.
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absolutely not. I play Wisconsin Lutheran in conference and Flavien is not in my top 15 in either recruiting or basketball ability right now. He dropped to #9 because he has not improved his sophmore year the way you would expect him to. To put him in perspective, we've also played against Chip Rank, Josh Gasser, Luke Russell, and Ben Averkamp, we've also played against Ben Mills (ranked #11 in Jr class) in summerleague Chip, Josh, and Ben are all clearly better than him. He doesnt stand out on the court like the three previously mentioned, his basketball IQ isnt nearly as high either. He also has let the emotions get the best of him at times. he has shows some of his atheltic ability at times, but doesnt play with that intensity all the time. The only player, of the ones previously mentioned, that is a better athlete than him is Chip Rank (who is an absolute beast)
*Note, these observations were made by a rival team and do not include AAU play.
However, word on the street is that he's felt slighted by his fall in rankings (#3 freshmen yr, #4 beginning of soph yr, #9 end of soph yr) and has committed to his game more in this off season.
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11-14-2008, 10:14 PM
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10' cant come fast enough
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Originally Posted by Triplethreat
absolutely not. I play Wisconsin Lutheran in conference and Flavien is not in my top 15 in either recruiting or basketball ability right now. He dropped to #9 because he has not improved his sophmore year the way you would expect him to. To put him in perspective, we've also played against Chip Rank, Josh Gasser, Luke Russell, and Ben Averkamp, we've also played against Ben Mills (ranked #11 in Jr class) in summerleague Chip, Josh, and Ben are all clearly better than him. He doesnt stand out on the court like the three previously mentioned, his basketball IQ isnt nearly as high either. He also has let the emotions get the best of him at times. he has shows some of his atheltic ability at times, but doesnt play with that intensity all the time. The only player, of the ones previously mentioned, that is a better athlete than him is Chip Rank (who is an absolute beast)
*Note, these observations were made by a rival team and do not include AAU play.
However, word on the street is that he's felt slighted by his fall in rankings (#3 freshmen yr, #4 beginning of soph yr, #9 end of soph yr) and has committed to his game more in this off season.
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I dont dought you and thanks for the info but I still see Flavien as a better fit for the swing then anyone instate outside of Kelm, I hope that he has put more effort in his workouts that is one thing ive heard he lacks is a real work ethic so I hope that changes...BTW welcome and where exactly do you play?
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11-14-2008, 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by TroyD92
I dont dought you and thanks for the info but I still see Flavien as a better fit for the swing then anyone instate outside of Kelm, I hope that he has put more effort in his workouts that is one thing ive heard he lacks is a real work ethic so I hope that changes...BTW welcome and where exactly do you play?
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Hartford, and i agree he would be a good fit for the swing if he had a little more patience in the half court offense (i dont know how much patience he actually has, but Wisco plays a more indivualistic half court offense so players get their shots off fast)
Last edited by Triplethreat : 11-14-2008 at 10:33 PM.
Reason: adding to post, typos
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11-16-2008, 07:46 PM
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if yu play him we wil win
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Originally Posted by Triplethreat
absolutely not. I play Wisconsin Lutheran in conference and Flavien is not in my top 15 in either recruiting or basketball ability right now. He dropped to #9 because he has not improved his sophmore year the way you would expect him to. To put him in perspective, we've also played against Chip Rank, Josh Gasser, Luke Russell, and Ben Averkamp, we've also played against Ben Mills (ranked #11 in Jr class) in summerleague Chip, Josh, and Ben are all clearly better than him. He doesnt stand out on the court like the three previously mentioned, his basketball IQ isnt nearly as high either. He also has let the emotions get the best of him at times. he has shows some of his atheltic ability at times, but doesnt play with that intensity all the time. The only player, of the ones previously mentioned, that is a better athlete than him is Chip Rank (who is an absolute beast)
*Note, these observations were made by a rival team and do not include AAU play.
However, word on the street is that he's felt slighted by his fall in rankings (#3 freshmen yr, #4 beginning of soph yr, #9 end of soph yr) and has committed to his game more in this off season.
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The game was just too easy for Flavien in AAU among his peers and during his freshman season. I think he just thought he could show up and dominate instead of working at improving. The humbling experience should be beneficial for his development. Also, he was battling an injury in the AAU season, not sure about his injury status during high school games. You can't judge a prospect from one singular game played against anyways. And I don't think you're putting enough emphasis on projectibles like size, lateral and straight ahead quickness, explosion, shot form and release point, etc; while putting too much emphasis solely on performance. I know some kids from my high school who could fill but they were just too small and slow to get D1 schollies. Flavien has the size and overall skill-set to match-up with small forwards in college. Mark my words, the kid will come out and establish himself as a top 50-75 player nationally once again this season.
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