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Old 05-20-2008, 12:15 AM
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So the player is leaving next year??? If thats the case i can't see anyone doing that. It's gotta be J.P. then...Why would anyone else wait a year?
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Old 05-20-2008, 03:14 AM
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And the Jarmusz rumors could come full circle.....
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"I didn't think it was a big deal, the de-commitment," former Gopher verbal David Gilreath said. "I think this was the best decision of my life."

"(The University of Minnesota) didn't really compare," UW Kicker Taylor Mehlhaff said. "I loved the atmosphere here. It was pretty easy to cross (Minnesota) off the list. I wanted to play at the highest level possible but I also wanted to have that college atmosphere."
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Old 05-20-2008, 10:45 AM
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If a player really does decide to leave, we are going to know about this very very soon....with the school year just coming to a close. I am still scared that the player questioning leaving is Leuer.....it worries me that he fell off the face of the earth (or hardwood) by the end of the year. It could also explain why we are pursuing Prosser as they are both PFs.

I could also see Nankivil being disappointed with his freshman year playing time, but I think he stands the most to gain from the the seniors that just graduated. Leuer on the other hand will still be a bench guy next year....cracking the starting lineup the year after as a Junior....at least thats how I see it working out.

I would sure hate to see Leuer go.

We have also heard from many sources that both TJ and Gavinski are currently happy with their situations. Sooooooooo, I guess it's a process of elimination on who you think could be leaving.

Again, we probably don't know the whole story, so maybe the news will be a shocker and all our speculation will be wrong. I hope mine is.
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Old 05-20-2008, 11:30 AM
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We can eliminate anyone from the 2005 class. Landry and Krabbe are starters, and will graduate as Badgers. From 2006, Tre' and Bohannon are starting, so they're not applicable either. The transfer would come from the group of: Gavinski, Jarmusz, Leuer, or Nankivil. Of those players, I'd think the least likely to depart would be Leuer, OnWisconsin. I wouldn't put it passed anybody, but he'd be making an irrational decision to leave the program if it were because of playing time. Even if he doesn't start next season, he'd be our 6th man, and he has the clearest path to start as an upperclassmen when Landry graduates. Nankivil would appear to have a higher propensity to leave, thinking rationally, if Leuer gets preference at center over him. He wouldn't be able to establish himself in '08, and would have to fend off Berggren and Markolf in '09. Gavinski has a great affinity for the program. I think he'd be more apt to stay in whatever capacity, even being destined to be stuck on the bench for 5 years, rather than leave. That leaves Jarmusz, who we've heard rumours about flirting with transferring before. On Wisconsin, your comment is the first I've seen which alluded to Jarmusz having an immense passion for the program. If R. Wilson, D. Taylor, or even J. Taylor (forcing a 3-guard backcourt), he could be relegated to the bench.

And of course we're leaving out the possibility that one of the '08 signees may not qualify. Although, I've heard at one time or another they were in solid standing, outside Robert Wilson, who still remains somewhat of an enigma.
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Old 05-20-2008, 12:04 PM
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Bernini,

I agree with what you have to say and I hope I am wrong. I believe it's the scout or WSN board that I have read many times a poster saying they are close to TJ and they don't see him leaving. However, his transferring has been the most priminent rumor over the past year.

I do think that if it were Nankivil or Leuer debating transferring, we might have heard something leak already as they would need to be figuring out what school it is they are looking at going to. And, both of these players would be looking at other high major schools. Not to knock TJ or Gavinski, but they could be doing their homework about possibilities a little more under the radar.

Out of the four players we have limited it down to, I would hope Nankivil and Leuer stay the most. I hope they realize the possibilities in their future on UW and wouldn't want to waste a year sitting on a bench at another program.

Who knows....it's all speculation at this point. Like I said in an earlier post, we should know soon if the rumor is actually true. I would guess that a kid would need to publicly announce his transfer very soon so that UW could get on with recruiting and the kid could join his new team at another campus.
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Old 05-20-2008, 01:16 PM
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I don't know how much stock you can put into message boarders with no established credibility claiming to be insiders. I'd guess WSN has a higher phony rate than here because: 1. they are younger as a whole, and 2. WSN has been around longer and has more traffic, thus they're going to get the attention they crave.

I've received info from more credible sources that he was considering transferring.

I would say the report of somebody considering transferring is more than a rumour. It came from a recruits mouth via our head coach, who told him that so he'd be patient with his decision if he really held UW in high regard. Bo is not the type of guy with a history of stringing players along. There's a legitimate possibility someone leaves, but it's not a done deal, and ultimately it's their decision as to whether it will come to fruition. Just like if a player did/didn't want to redshirt.

Whoever it is though, it could take all the way until the preseason, when a player would be prompted to make a decision, lest lose part of this season and another.
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Old 05-20-2008, 01:31 PM
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I've received info from more credible sources that he was considering transferring.
Could you clarify that statement? For example, are you refering to a specific player for UW or are you using that as a generic statement that one might see?
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Old 05-20-2008, 01:51 PM
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Could you clarify that statement? For example, are you refering to a specific player for UW or are you using that as a generic statement that one might see?
I meant Jarmusz.
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Old 05-20-2008, 10:16 PM
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We can stop the discussions over who could be leaving and why Prosser and not Wilson. Prosser made the whole thing up.

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Sources said UW coach Bo Ryan has not been in contact with Prosser ``for months.''
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Old 05-20-2008, 10:34 PM
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We can stop the discussions over who could be leaving and why Prosser and not Wilson. Prosser made the whole thing up.
I don't buy the sources close to the team at all Komacki. Prosser stands to gain nothing by pretending he has an active Wisconsin offer. He originally earned a Wisconsin offer, so that already sent the message to programs around the country that he's a legitimate high major player according to a good talent evaluator like Bo Ryan and staff. And they offered him very early, so that's his major selling point. Wisconsin having a scholarship open really has nothing to do with his actual or perceived skill level.

Of course sources are going to shoot down the report, because it would quell rampant speculation, and take scrutiny off kids. Whoever the kid was can now make his decision without pressure pulling him either way.

Prosser shared information that was supposed to be confidential, apparently, so I wouldn't be surprised if he's personally burned the bridge with Wisconsin, and we won't hear that we're recruiting him anymore. But that doesn't mean we won't still be looking to add players like Wilson or Williams in '09. Williams says he's still being hotly pursued by Wisconsin.....is he lying also?
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Old 05-20-2008, 10:35 PM
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We can stop the discussions over who could be leaving and why Prosser and not Wilson. Prosser made the whole thing up.
had a feeling he making it up.
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Old 05-20-2008, 10:52 PM
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I just listened to the audio attached to the Prosser article. He definitely was not "making it up". But it is a possibility there was a misunderstanding between he and the staff. Like they made a general statement, i.e.: "somebody may leave between now and signing day, you never know, which is why we're going to continue actively recruiting you". Like you have to prepare for the worst. But he mistook it as someone specifically is considering leaving the program.

Only problem was he went on to say something to the effect of, "if we're going to continue to recruit you, that means we have a scholarship open". He says they most recently contacted him a couple weeks ago.
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Old 05-21-2008, 10:14 AM
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Here is an interesting little tid-bit. Suggests that Prosser is simply trying to bulk up his bball resume:

UW Men's Basketball: UW men's basketball: Rivals report on possible transfer called erroneous

Although the article does not say who the sources are that are close to the UW athletic department.

What do you guys think?

Makes me a little mad that they are attacking rivals when it is Prosser himself they are quoting. You can also check out the audio.

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