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Old 04-30-2008, 12:59 PM
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'11 WI PG Larry Bradley

Larry Bradley



Milwaukee (Wisconsin) Vincent
AAU: Milwaukee Spartans


Ht: 6'3"
Wt: 186 lbs


Statistics: 9.3 PPG, top 5 in Wisconsin in assists

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Larry is the most advanced first year player I've ever coached


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One of the best freshmen I have ever seen. Runs the point very well, whether it be dropping a three or finding the open teammate. Bradley already plays with the confidence and leadership of a senior, he will be something special to watch in years to come.
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He doesn't play like a freshman. Solid guard and you'll hear more about him down the road. Vincent ran a surprising amount of stuff for him.

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#1 player in Wisconsin (2011) per Mark Miller
- #95 overall on Hoopscoop

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- Plays at the former high school of Carl Landry, Marcus Landry, Rodney Buford, Diante Garrett, Greg Brown, Quemont Greer, Boo Wade, Marshall Williams, and Jose Winston
- Legendary Coach Tom Diener recently resigned

Interest:
Illinois, Tennessee

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Old 04-30-2008, 02:23 PM
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This kid sounds like he is definitely going to be something to watch in the next few years. We are without a doubt going to need a true PG in 2011, so this may be our guy.

Should be interesting to hear about how much UW follows him after we wrap up our 2010 class fairly soon. I am guessing you will start hearing about Bo at his games starting his sophomore year of high school.

Here is Mark Miller's write-up on Bradley. It says some pretty amazing stuff about the kid.

Wisconsin High School Basketball - Boys / Youth Basketball - Boys

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Old 04-30-2008, 04:03 PM
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From Miller's article: "He is a true point guard who sees the floor well and gets the ball where it needs to be."


Bradley would be a smart pick up for Bo for a couple reasons. First, it's always good to keep the top talent in the state at home. Second, Bo still needs to find a point guard to take over after Jordan Taylor is done. Vander Blue might be the guy, but it wouldn't hurt to have a true point guard. And with four scholarships likely to be open (Jarmusz, Leuer, Nankivil, Gavinski) it's not like Bo doesn't have room for him. He's got the physical stats that Bo would look for too. He's actually almost exactly the same as Blue by height and weight.
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Old 04-30-2008, 04:17 PM
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Yeah, he is going to be a nice big and solid PG. For a freshman, he is very big already. Could be similar to Nick Russell from TX that we were looking at for 2009. Anyway, he is sure to keep growing and the more he physically matures, he will definitely add some muscle as well.

Vander Blue and Diamond Taylor will both share some minutes as Jordan's back-up once Hughes is gone, but you can almost guarantee Bo goes for a PG in the 2011 class....especially with four scholarships open.

This kid seems like a great prospect already. I can't wait to follow his progress in the next few years.
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Old 04-30-2008, 04:33 PM
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Unlike Lucious, we just don't have to assume he'll grow at the natural rate for a teenager. He's already as tall as he needs to be for his skill-set.

When Lucious started getting the hype in 7th-8th grade, he was 5'10", and projected to be a 2/3 in college. 4-5 years later we discover his growth had already peaked and he's a miniature 1.

Also, Lucious' numbers were even more modest than Bradley's when he was a frosh. At not quite as big of a basketball powerhouse. Wisconsin high school basketball coaches have a very old school attitude. Players need to earn their minutes, they aren't just going to be gifted on hype and raw talent. 7.7 PPG for a freshman at Milwaukee Vincent is nothing to sneeze at. I couldn't find his final assist and rebound numbers anywhere unfortunately.

BTW, I'm expecting only 3 scholarships to eventually be available for '08.

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I agree Bernini....3 scholarships is probably more realistic. I am guessing that you are referring to Gavinski not being on scholarship for his 5th year. This would make sense unless he amazingly starts contributing greatly in the coming year.

This would also mean another 2010 scholarship would open up. I am guessing our final target if this happens would either be Davis or Barnes.

6-3 is very tall for a freshman already. I would expect him to still grow another few inches, but like you said this is not always the case (i.e. Korie Lucius). Also, it is true that he is already at a very good height for a true point. If he were to stay 6-3 and fill out a little/add more muscle over the next few years, he would still be a very good prospect whether or not he adds height.
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Old 04-30-2008, 04:51 PM
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I agree Bernini....3 scholarships is probably more realistic. I am guessing that you are referring to Gavinski not being on scholarship for his 5th year. This would make sense unless he amazingly starts contributing greatly in the coming year.

This would also mean another 2010 scholarship would open up. I am guessing our final target if this happens would either be Davis or Barnes.

6-3 is very tall for a freshman already. I would expect him to still grow another few inches, but like you said this is not always the case (i.e. Korie Lucius). Also, it is true that he is already at a very good height for a true point. If he were to stay 6-3 and fill out a little/add more muscle over the next few years, he would still be a very good prospect whether or not he adds height.
5th year scholarship player not asked back? I had not considered that angle because I don't recall it ever happening in basketball at UW. However, it occurs all the time in football. It's a very interesting theory, and plausible. A player who doesn't contribute shouldn't get 5-years worth of a scholarship when a player who does only gets 4. No, I actually was referring to the scholarship becoming available in '09 for Wilson or whoever else.
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Also, Lucious' numbers were even more modest than Bradley's when he was a frosh. At not quite as big of a basketball powerhouse. Wisconsin high school basketball coaches have a very old school attitude. Players need to earn their minutes, they aren't just going to be gifted on hype and raw talent. 7.7 PPG for a freshman at Milwaukee Vincent is nothing to sneeze at. I couldn't find his final assist and rebound numbers anywhere unfortunately.

Bradley looks to be a great prospect but I think that you are selling Lucious a little short on his freshman season. He didnt score nearly as much as Bradley but Lucious's King team his freshman year was probably much better than this past year's Vincent team. That King team had at least 6 division one players on it and Im pretty sure it might have even been 7.
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Old 04-30-2008, 05:09 PM
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Bradley looks to be a great prospect but I think that you are selling Lucious a little short on his freshman season. He didnt score nearly as much as Bradley but Lucious's King team his freshman year was probably much better than this past year's Vincent team. That King team had at least 6 division one players on it and Im pretty sure it might have even been 7.
I think they had 3 division 1 players: Mitchell Carter, Leneal Harris, and Troy Cotton.

But your point is well taken. I wasn't intending to bash Lucious for his performance. I was just trying to put Bradley's numbers in perspective. I recall many were expecting Lucious to dominate right off the bat, but he, like everyone else, had to pay his dues in this state.
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No, I actually was referring to the scholarship becoming available in '09 for Wilson or whoever else.
You're thinking that Gavinski giving his up is more likely than Bo having a "take-backs" clause in Evans' scholarship? Hm.
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Not really Gavinski giving his up scholarship, but rather him only getting the regular allotted 4 years of scholarship that any non-redshirt would get. If he is not a major contributer, I don't see why he would be rewarded with an extra year of scholarship. Also, with 4 years, he could essentially be graduated anyway and he still would have gotten a free education. I don't think it is unreasonable.

I do think that pulling Evans' scholarship for a 2010 player may be unlikely. If we do not get Jamil and Evans proves to be a good practice squad guy next year and that he will be a contributer in the future (assuming he will redshirt), I don't see Bo yanking his scholarship for the 2010 class.....but who knows. I guess I only see the conditional scholarship for Jamil...a one scenario type thing.

In addition, I don't think it would look good for UW to be branded as having given out a conditional scholarship that is applicable in many differant situations. Kids will see this as a negative that a coach could just yank the rug out from under them if they think there is someone better.
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Not really Gavinski giving his up scholarship, but rather him only getting the regular allotted 4 years of scholarship that any non-redshirt would get. If he is not a major contributer, I don't see why he would be rewarded with an extra year of scholarship. Also, with 4 years, he could essentially be graduated anyway and he still would have gotten a free education. I don't think it is unreasonable.

I do think that pulling Evans' scholarship for a 2010 player may be unlikely. If we do not get Jamil and Evans proves to be a good practice squad guy next year and that he will be a contributer in the future (assuming he will redshirt), I don't see Bo yanking his scholarship for the 2010 class.....but who knows. I guess I only see the conditional scholarship for Jamil...a one scenario type thing.

In addition, I don't think it would look good for UW to be branded as having given out a conditional scholarship that is applicable in many differant situations. Kids will see this as a negative that a coach could just yank the rug out from under them if they think there is someone better.
Was that in response to my question? I was more asking which scenario Bernini (and others) thought was more likely for 2009. I don't think that the "take-back" clause would apply past 2009, and I think that it's even less likely that Gavinski wouldn't finish out his eligibility with the team, be it on scholarship or not. And I don't think that Bo would ask for it to sign anyone other than Wilson.
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Nope, just a general post.
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Just a fresh perspective, when is the last time that something did not go wrong with the schollie situation for a 3 year span?

Here are some quick examples, I'm sure some of the more knowledgeable posters here can give even more:

Mickey Perry transferring
DeAaron Williams issues
Boo Wade Issues
Sam Okey issues
Devin Harris leaving early

and these are just off the top of my head. For us to think that there will be 0 attrition in a 3 or 4 year span is just crazy
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Just found a nice little write-up about Larry Bradley on the Illini Orange and Blue rivals site.

Here is what it says about Bradley:


Larry Bradley Milwaukee Running Rebels
As I watched this kid throw up basket after basket and drop some sweet passes into the unsuspecting hands of his teammates, I was reminded of former Illini great Frank Williams and the way he glided around the court. Bradley is a 6-foot-3 point guard from Milwaukee Vincent high School that averaged around 11 points per game at the varsity level and was in the top five in the state of Wisconsin for assists. You watch him and can pick him out almost immediately. Some are calling him a top 10 national prospect after he played all but 2 minutes for the weekend and averaged 25 points per game. He doesn't have any offers yet, but that will change very soon.

The Illini better not think they can steal him from the Badgers!

Here is the link if you have a subscription:
http://illinois.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=803347

They also say some very good things about Darnell Harris which I will post in his thread.
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