Official 2010 Wisconsin General Recruiting Discussion

[landoc88]

I have been way to busy, and i have not been able to keep with the board. I was just wondering if anybody could tell me some info on the recruits that we have gotten. I guess i can just read about it.

I guess its more who of the the bigger names that we offered do we have a shot with. I was hoping to land Robert Bolden but just by reading the penn st. board beacuse i was wondering witch way he was leaning and it looks like Penn st. all the way. Who are some of the bigger names that i dont know or i should know?

I guess i just have to read the board and try and get back into the flow of it. this is by far the best boards when it comes to recruiting and your favorite sports teams.

[TroyD92]

Some names that are up there.....

-Nick Demien
-Justin McCay
-CJ Fierdowicz
-James C. White
-Luke Massa
-Anthony Gatti
-Laken Tolmlinson
-Vinne Mauro
-Jermaine Barton
-Kelby Brown
-Eluzies Vil
-Chi Chi Aruguzo
-CJ Olaniyan
-Corey Miller
-Jibreel Black
-Marcus Bagley
-Beau Allen
-Kevin Johnson
-Deandre Harris
-Sean Parker
-Earnest Thomas

[Mr. Forward]

Originally Posted by TroyD92

Some names that are up there.....

-Laken Tolmlinson
-CJ Olaniyan
-Corey Miller
-Jibreel Black
-Sean Parker

Definite long shots there - Jibreel Black not so much maybe.

Nick Demien is visiting Madison next month (July) and Pittsburgh ATH Manasseh Garner has an official visit set for September.

I also think we'll have another verbal or two shortly with Trotter, Lewis and Kelby Brown weighing their decisions.

[TroyD92]

Changed the thread title, and it seems as though we will have two new commits in the coming week as it seems Joe Brennan a QB from New Jersey, and Kevin Johnson from Maryland are close to making a decision with Wisconsin in the top 2 for both.

[dharrisfan2003]

Here's to hoping we land Kevin Johnson, Kelby Brown, and Joseph Brennan in the next few weeks.

[Heavystarch]

I keep tagging guys as "hot" if we are in their top three to make it easier to determine who we are in good standing with. Hope that helps

[Bernini]

Originally Posted by GoRU

I'm bummed, we were in the driver's seat a month ago and I'm still trying to figure out what happened.

Looks like Miami staff is confident here. Some people like UW though, so I don't know.

The Badger staff didn't return to the strategy of recruiting the northeast until they saw your frequent and vociferous posts on this very own board trying to deter them. Then they thought to themselves, if he's getting so impassioned, and going through all this effort to try and convince us to not recruit there, he must be trying to protect something of value and know we're a legit threat to pilfer it. From that fertile ground which produced 7-1st round picks in this past April's NFL draft, Joseph Brennan may end up being the first prospect procured as part of the renewed effort, but he certainly won't be the last.
*Evilly and maniacally belly laughs*

[Heavystarch]

Tamakloe is already the first

[Bernini]

Originally Posted by Heavystarch

Tamakloe is already the first

I was referring to New Jersey specifically, because that's where he's from.

Tamakloe isn't even from the broader category of the northeast. DC area/Maryland could be classified as mid Atlantic. I like our decision to harvest their ground as well though because it's not as if the competition is as fierce in ACC country as SEC or Big East, in winter the temperatures are much more comparable to the midwest than the southeast and southwest are, and the attitudes of their inhabitants are discernibly more progressive.

More northeast and mid-Atlantic, less Southeast and Southwest. And of course the Wisconsin/the midwest will always be the foundation. De-emphasize Texas almost completely and scale back in Florida. We've done alright in the latter, but not relative to the amount coaches (2-3) that are operating there. Wisconsin, Ohio, New Jersey, New York, Illinois, Florida, and maybe Connecticut and Colorado; appear to be the states which could produce the best yield for the Badgers right now. And then we could always try to nationally recruit OL's, RB's, and TE's. It's ridiculous to me that no top TE's OOS have committed to Wisconsin since establishing ourselves as the premier TE program in the nation thanks to the immense success of Beckum, Graham, and Daniels. That's the fault of kids not doing their homework.

[Mr. Forward]

Originally Posted by Bernini

De-emphasize Texas almost completely and scale back in Florida. We've done alright in the latter, but not relative to the amount coaches (2-3) that are operating there. Wisconsin, Ohio, New Jersey, New York, Illinois, Florida, and maybe Connecticut and Colorado; appear to be the states which could produce the best yield for the Badgers right now. And then we could always try to nationally recruit OL's, RB's, and TE's. It's ridiculous to me that no top TE's OOS have committed to Wisconsin since establishing ourselves as the premier TE program in the nation thanks to the immense success of Beckum, Graham, and Daniels. That's the fault of kids not doing their homework.

I don't think you scale back much in FL at all. If not for all the offers coming out of camp this year - we'd need to be looking there more right now. We probably will never land an elite-type, but there seems to be some good interest with three star types. You mentioned it in the paragraph before, but with Tamakloe already on board and Johnson apparently very interested - I'd say you should add MD to your list of states. MO has been good to WI football too. Call me crazy, but I like the offers to the Georgians this cycle too. Maybe it won't amount to much now, but we'll see what happens in the future. I'm a bit mystified on TE prospects myself. Then again, we are getting some interest (think DeCicco and Hageman last cycle), but we haven't closed yet.

[Heavystarch]

Originally Posted by Bernini

Tamakloe isn't even from the broader category of the northeast. DC area/Maryland could be classified as mid Atlantic.

Same recruiting zone, regardless of how detailed you get with your geographic classifications. And yes, Frank is the first in said region since Moffitt in 2006

[Bernini]

Originally Posted by Mr. Forward

I don't think you scale back much in FL at all. If not for all the offers coming out of camp this year - we'd need to be looking there more right now. We probably will never land an elite-type, but there seems to be some good interest with three star types.

After what seemed like great promise, each of the last two cycles Bucky has only landed 2 semi coveted prospects from the Sunshine State. Then we ended up taking on 3 total sleepers, primarily so our efforts wouldn't seem in vain. 1-2 may wind up panning out, but in the long run it's not advisable to be remotely reliant on sleepers from a state that's grossly over-recruited. If Floridians have any ounce of talent, it's highly likely they're going to be noticed by several other high major programs. It's hardly worth taking on a few questionable recruits, just for a chance at a comparable number of 2nd and 3rd tier prospects from the state. Like you said, no we will never land an elite player there, because we have to compete with 3 high profile BCS schools with a built in advantage, one that's burgeoning, and the numerous name programs from around the country who set up there. To even have a big enough haul w/ the 2nd and 3rd tier types, Wisconsin would have to achieve back to back seasons where we were in the national sports conscience. The first where we'd generate initial interest and the 2nd where we'd keep it. As is we just got our asses kicked in the very own state of the kids we were trying to impress, by one of their flagship teams. The University of Wisconsin are second class citizens right now. Doeren can keep his nose to the grindstone, but Partridge should be hanging out in the northeast almost exclusively subsequent to seasons where we hadn't fared so well. 1 assistant coach in Florida is more than enough most cycles, otherwise we'll be wasting too much time and too many resources.

You mentioned it in the paragraph before, but with Tamakloe already on board and Johnson apparently very interested - I'd say you should add MD to your list of states.

I meant to.

MO has been good to WI football too.

That was before the rise to prominence of the Missouri football program. That negated our acquisition of Wes Kemp for one. I wouldn't try and recruit any positions outside of RB, OL, and TE in Missouri now.

Call me crazy, but I like the offers to the Georgians this cycle too.

You're crazy....we're never going to have success there outside of a rare exception here and there.

[Heavystarch]

Originally Posted by Mr. Forward

I don't think you scale back much in FL at all. If not for all the offers coming out of camp this year - we'd need to be looking there more right now. We probably will never land an elite-type, but there seems to be some good interest with three star types. You mentioned it in the paragraph before, but with Tamakloe already on board and Johnson apparently very interested - I'd say you should add MD to your list of states. MO has been good to WI football too. Call me crazy, but I like the offers to the Georgians this cycle too. Maybe it won't amount to much now, but we'll see what happens in the future. I'm a bit mystified on TE prospects myself. Then again, we are getting some interest (think DeCicco and Hageman last cycle), but we haven't closed yet.

I agree with you, Florida is definitely paying dividends. Troy is probably going nuts at the thought of scaling back there lol

[Bernini]

Originally Posted by Heavystarch

Same recruiting zone, regardless of how detailed you get with your geographic classifications. And yes, Frank is the first in said region since Moffitt in 2006

There's a pretty clear distinction, IMO.

Anyways, like I said, when I referred to Joe Brennan potentially being the first from the fertile ground that produced 7 1st-round draft picks in this year's draft, I was talking about New Jersey. He'd still be the first.

[Jwill535]

Doeren is barely recruiting Florida anymore. It is primarly Partridge recruiting it. For his first year, getting Gilbert and Oneal was a pretty good haul.