'10 MD WR Adrian Coxson (Penn State Verbal) - Page 2

jayer · #16 (**permalink**) 02-09-2009, 12:16 PM

Adrian's tape looks great! He would be a nice early verbal!

PSU42Fan · #17 (**permalink**) 02-09-2009, 01:28 PM

You have to like where PSU stands here so early in the game.

Coxson reportedly is concerned about the # of WR's we brought in the last class, but they'll only have one year in the system. The majority will have redshirted, so they'll not be that far ahead.

That being said, if we stay closer to 14-15 'ships, we should take no more than 2 WR's in this class. That would give us 8-9 between the last two classes depending on where kids like Kuntz and Thomas end up.

AustinScottistheone · #18 (**permalink**) 02-09-2009, 03:35 PM

I've got this kid as one of my top 5 must-gets...reading that article just reinforced it; TOTAL PACKAGE (on the field, academically, off the field). It will hurt badly if we don't get him, we desperately need another #1 type.

I don't think the WRs we brought in will be a problem. Brandon Felder is a potential greyshirt due to knee injury, definite RS regardless (I would think). Shawney Kersey's physical talent (6'2 190 - 4.4 - 100/200M times - athleticism) hasn't matched his production on an actual football field, and he has battled through injury. Devon Smith is 5'7 150 at best, and I see him as more of an all-around threat then an actual WR.

Christian Kuntz, like Shawney Kersey, is more ATH/athleticism then WR/skilled at a particular position. Curtis Drake played QB in H.S. and while he may see time as a freshmen, I view his game (hopefully) as Norwood's game was. I really like all 5 of the players mentioned above (especially Felder - think he could be great), but it is basically Justin Brown (WR/KR maybe), Derrick Thomas (WR-KR/PR) and possibly one of Kersey (grades?)/Drake (learning the position) that would appear to be sure things at the WR position as true freshmen.

Undercover Brother · #19 (**permalink**) 02-09-2009, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by PSU42Fan

You have to like where PSU stands here so early in the game.

Coxson reportedly is concerned about the # of WR's we brought in the last class, but they'll only have one year in the system. The majority will have redshirted, so they'll not be that far ahead.

That being said, if we stay closer to 14-15 'ships, we should take no more than 2 WR's in this class. That would give us 8-9 between the last two classes depending on where kids like Kuntz and Thomas end up.

Kid has no reason to be concerned with the number brought in. Smith isn't a threat to go deep in routes; Kuntz is a non factor; Felder is coming off an injury; Kersey could be an academic casualty ... This kid would have been our top receiver coming in this class.

Undercover Brother · #20 (**permalink**) 02-09-2009, 06:36 PM

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We'll see, but I think you're undervaluing Franklin here. Especially with the recent news of his Head-Coach in waiting tag.

Got to admit, when its a PSU v. UMD battle for a Maryland kid, in which both offered, a major edge goes to PSU. Franklin isn't as good as Locksley. Yes, we shall see, but it would be a MAJOR upset if this kid goes to MAryland over PSU.

Undercover Brother · #21 (**permalink**) 02-09-2009, 06:59 PM

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We'll see, but I think you're undervaluing Franklin here. Especially with the recent news of his Head-Coach in waiting tag.

Wanted to tone down my initial post a bit and remembered I couldn't edit it. As far as Franklin, we have heard this "underestimating" before with Locksley, Cosh and the rest. Maryland's record versus PSU for kids that both offer and have legit interest in both schools isn't good. While I might be underestimating Franklin, you are forgetting about Larry Johnson and what he has done for PSU in that area. If you take a look at articles already, the kid has clicked with Johnson and its evident he has major interest in PSU. Until Maryland can successfully defend its state and win battles versus PSU for the top players, then I will get weary of Maryland. Don't mean to sound crass, but its reality. Maryland could win him over in the end ... stranger things have happened ... recruiting is fluid. That said, as it stands now, I will be surprised if this kid isn't a Lion come May when he wants to decide.

goterps1 · #22 (**permalink**) 02-09-2009, 07:21 PM

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Wanted to tone down my initial post a bit and remembered I couldn't edit it. As far as Franklin, we have heard this "underestimating" before with Locksley, Cosh and the rest. Maryland's record versus PSU for kids that both offer and have legit interest in both schools isn't good. While I might be underestimating Franklin, you are forgetting about Larry Johnson and what he has done for PSU in that area. If you take a look at articles already, the kid has clicked with Johnson and its evident he has major interest in PSU. Until Maryland can successfully defend its state and win battles versus PSU for the top players, then I will get weary of Maryland. Don't mean to sound crass, but its reality. Maryland could win him over in the end ... stranger things have happened ... recruiting is fluid. That said, as it stands now, I will be surprised if this kid isn't a Lion come May when he wants to decide.

To start, the Bryant Johnson thing is huge, clearly he has an impact in the kids life. Locksley hasn't been here for years, and isn't nearly as effective in MD as he is in DC. If you remember correctly LJ started to own MD when Franklin and Locksley were gone and you guys had that huge class in 2006. Cosh recruited the WCAC and I can't really remember you guys getting a player from there, could be my memory though. You are right that MD needs to lock down their own area- the same can be said for PSU although I'm not sure why you guys don't. In the eyes of many high schools in our area MD is not a program that has showed these kids their deserved love, which happened when Franklin and Locksley left and Friedgen made bad hires. MD announcing that Franklin is coach in waiting is huge for this area- many high school coaches have already come out and supported the hire; that's generally the reason why I said you are undervaluing Franklin. But i completely understand why PSU disrespects MD in this area- LJ is a man on a mission and he really relates to a lot of recruits. I haven't seen Coxson mention anything about his relationship with LJ but I could be mistaken, mostly everything is all about Johnson.

Hopefully for our sake times are changing in this area- hopefully there will never be a haul for you guys like there was in 2006. In fact you can see how much a difference Franklin is making, the guys that you beat us out for this past year were Stanley, Thomas, and Givens. That's still a lot of guys, but considerably down from what it was in 2006.

Undercover Brother · #23 (**permalink**) 02-09-2009, 07:39 PM

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To start, the Bryant Johnson thing is huge, clearly he has an impact in the kids life. Locksley hasn't been here for years, and isn't nearly as effective in MD as he is in DC. If you remember correctly LJ started to own MD when Franklin and Locksley were gone and you guys had that huge class in 2006. Cosh recruited the WCAC and I can't really remember you guys getting a player from there, could be my memory though. You are right that MD needs to lock down their own area- the same can be said for PSU although I'm not sure why you guys don't. In the eyes of many high schools in our area MD is not a program that has showed these kids their deserved love, which happened when Franklin and Locksley left and Friedgen made bad hires. MD announcing that Franklin is coach in waiting is huge for this area- many high school coaches have already come out and supported the hire; that's generally the reason why I said you are undervaluing Franklin. But i completely understand why PSU disrespects MD in this area- LJ is a man on a mission and he really relates to a lot of recruits. I haven't seen Coxson mention anything about his relationship with LJ but I could be mistaken, mostly everything is all about Johnson.

Hopefully for our sake times are changing in this area- hopefully there will never be a haul for you guys like there was in 2006. In fact you can see how much a difference Franklin is making, the guys that you beat us out for this past year were Stanley, Thomas, and Givens. That's still a lot of guys, but considerably down from what it was in 2006.

PSU is off to a great start in Pennsylvania and it looks like it will command the state, if the dominoes fall. Hull and Jones are the top two in the state and PSU could be getting Dakota Royer very soon and maybe Bettancourt after that. Sharrif Floyd, Brandon Ifill, Kenney among others have MAJOR interest in PSU. I'm not sure PSU loses anyone in state this year that OSU or Pitt want as well, which couldn't be said of years past.

Paterno has p*ssed off a few coaches in state and it hasn't helped. His rift with one of his former players, Terry Smith, has led the pipeline of Gateway High School to Pitt or OSU.

As for this year, I thought Morris also had an offer from Maryland, but its irrevelant. You got two that had PSU offers and only Travis Hawkins has more than passing interest. Arnett wasn't coming to PSU. Whether he didn't have any interest, or his coach steered him away after the ALE thing is beyond me. Ankrah was our's if we didn't kick him to the curb twice. I can't count him, but he would have been another.

We will come into Maryland and get a few, but we won't have to rely on that state as much this year. We have probably 16 openings and can take most of our kids from PA, if staff wants. I don't think Ego will look at PSU much, but this receiver, Coxson, and a few others certainly will, like Haverstein, maybe Louis Young and maybe that LB stud, Nick Forbes.

goterps1 · #24 (**permalink**) 02-09-2009, 08:13 PM

Yeah I was under the impression that Paterno had pissed off some major players in PA for some odd reason. Pulling Hull and Jones this early is big, even in an area that PSU doesn't always recruit well, and yeah I would imagine Royer is a LOCK.

Ego is SEC bound, imo..originally from FL. Frederick is big this year with Forbes, Ferguson, Havenstein and Zwinak. Looks like Young has officially de-committed from Stanford, which was real odd in the first place. We'll see what happens with Coxson and all but regardless it's an interesting off the field rivalry between PSU and MD.

Undercover Brother · #25 (**permalink**) 02-09-2009, 11:02 PM

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Yeah I was under the impression that Paterno had pissed off some major players in PA for some odd reason. Pulling Hull and Jones this early is big, even in an area that PSU doesn't always recruit well, and yeah I would imagine Royer is a LOCK.

Ego is SEC bound, imo..originally from FL. Frederick is big this year with Forbes, Ferguson, Havenstein and Zwinak. Looks like Young has officially de-committed from Stanford, which was real odd in the first place. We'll see what happens with Coxson and all but regardless it's an interesting off the field rivalry between PSU and MD.

PSU doesn't get Ego (I know that), nor will it get Zwinak, if it offers. He is going to VPI unless something strange hapens. However, I'm reminded that several Maryland fans said no way does PSU get Sean Stanley because he was from the south as well.

As far as Young ... he verballed to a great school in Stanford. The total package for an education. Harbaugh has turned the fortunes of that program around and is getting some very talented kids from everywhere in the country. I believe PSU lost a kid to Stanford from Maryland - Stephens. Maybe kid decommitted from Stanford with all the Harbaugh to NFL rumors. Can't fault the kid for wanting to go to a school like that.

goterps1 · #26 (**permalink**) 02-09-2009, 11:20 PM

Yeah Zwinak's father played for Virginia Tech, it's very early with Ego and LJ is his position coach so who knows there..I actually know Sean pretty well and he was all LSU at the beginning of the period, they didn't show him much love. He loves LJ and that's basically why he committed to PSU, good thing that he didn't end up going to Illinois to say the least.

Yeah Harbaugh is really turning things around at Stanford even with all the restrictions with academics..but Young's verbal was more odd the fact that he said from the beginning he probably wouldn't stick with Stanford and he hadn't visited there, but then again these are 17 year old kids

joeyc32lp · #27 (**permalink**) 02-10-2009, 05:28 PM

Never knew Paterno turned some people off in that area around Pittsburgh... makes a lot of sense though regarding how PSU isn't somehow a magnet to every recruit that wanted to stay in state but didn't want to go to Pitt from Southwest PA. It always baffled me that OSU would have such a draw to it for that particular region.

PSU397 · #28 (**permalink**) 02-10-2009, 11:51 PM

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Paterno has p*ssed off a few coaches in state and it hasn't helped. His rift with one of his former players, Terry Smith, has led the pipeline of Gateway High School to Pitt or OSU.

Why is their a rift between Paterno and Terry Smith? Was there something in the way that Paterno handled Justin King that caused a problem?

Undercover Brother · #29 (**permalink**) 02-12-2009, 12:55 AM

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Why is their a rift between Paterno and Terry Smith? Was there something in the way that Paterno handled Justin King that caused a problem?

Yes

Jake Gittes · #30 (**permalink**) 02-12-2009, 09:46 AM

...and I don't think Madeira throwing around felony indictments like Halloween candy helped matters either.