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09-07-2009, 01:20 AM
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Everything you said - ditto. Unless you randomly happen upon extraordinary luck... I wouldn't want to be some small fish in a HUGE pond when my goal is to eventually go pro. Watching Mustain bounce himself around is kinda sad too... best QB in the nation to obscurity to the rest of the less recruiting obsessed world. He's sniffing Corps' heels. I'd say that Jenkins made a bad decision going to FLA but I think he's there at the right time. As for being a reciever heading there though?!... they've got Olympic sprinters all over that field.
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09-07-2009, 10:04 AM
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Dude, I equate Meyer in the same ilk as your head coach. They don't care one bit about the person, only the player. Urban couldn't care or less if you attend class. It's not like RichRod's grad rate at WVU was stellar.
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For some reason, I can't link the Gator Country article, but here's a snippet.
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The latest news released Thursday only furthers the notion that Meyer has brought about a complete culture change within the football program. In the spring semester, the Florida football team turned in a 2.86 grade point average, bettering the 2.81 achieved in the fall that was the highest since such records have been kept. Thirty-two of Florida’s scholarship players posted a GPA of 3.0 or higher.
Here is the team GPA semester by semester since Meyer’s arrival: Spring 2005, 2.58; Fall 2005, 2.65; Spring 2006, 2.70; Fall 2006, 2.72; Spring 2007, 2.77; Fall 2007, 2.81; Spring 2008, 2.86.
The Gators posted a 72 percent graduation rate this year and early this week when the NCAA announced the Academic Progress Rate for college football programs the Gators were in the 80-90 percentile.
Those numbers are significant because they are hardcore evidence that Urban Meyer isn’t just blowing smoke when he tells a recruit’s mama and daddy that he will do everything within his power to turn their boy into a man with a real future ahead of him. The proof is in the GPA. The proof is in the graduation rates.
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From Maize N' Brew, also un-linkable.
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The allegation in the Free Press Article that players were being called out of class to attend practice, is contrary to the fact the team posted it's highest GPA ever last season. It's hard to succeed academically if you're not in class.
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BuckeyeXtra - The Columbus Dispatch : Rodriguez's mark slow to appear
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Then last weekend on Senior Day, his parents were late getting to Michigan Stadium from Dayton because of traffic from an accident. So instead of having Harrison take the field unescorted, Rodriguez accompanied him.
"He didn't really need to do that," Harrison said. "I see him in a whole different way. I used to look at him as just my head coach. Now I look at him as if it's a different type of bond."
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I could take your uneducated word on this matter, but I think I'll listen to guys like Michael Schofield, Je'Ron Stokes, Craig Roh, Brandon Moore, Denard Robinson, Tate Forcier, Michael Shaw, Kevin Koger, Obi Ezeh, Brandin Hawthorne, Donovan Warren, Kelvin and Kevin Grady and some of their parents who have publicly supported and defended Rodriguez and commented on how much he cares about his players.
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]I can't think if a single significant NFL WR from UF this past decade or two...maybe I am missing someone huge and will look like an idiot with this statement. As far as PSU...OJ McDuffie, Bobby Engram, Bryant Johnson, Joe Jurevicious....
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Not exactly world-beaters either. Also, the verdict is still out on Meyer's WRs at UF. What guys before him did is irrelevant to his record, either good or bad. You guys at PSU are in a unique situation because Paterno's been around forever. You can use previous guys (i.e all of the LBs, Larry Johnson at RB, etc...), but Meyer's only been at a big school for a few years.
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And as far as putting two WRs in the top four rounds of the NFL draft, as another PSU poster mentioned, PSU did the same exact thing.
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5 years, $14.25 million ($8.4M guaranteed) is what Percy Harvin got. Slight difference from a player with a similar skill-set (Derrick Williams, who did look good in some of the Lions' pre-season that I watched). First-round picks do have some draw on recruits, even though Harvin is a different player than Coxson. He'll do well at either school, but to simply dismiss UF is a little out there.
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09-07-2009, 10:27 AM
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Everything you said - ditto. Unless you randomly happen upon extraordinary luck... I wouldn't want to be some small fish in a HUGE pond when my goal is to eventually go pro. Watching Mustain bounce himself around is kinda sad too... best QB in the nation to obscurity to the rest of the less recruiting obsessed world. He's sniffing Corps' heels. I'd say that Jenkins made a bad decision going to FLA but I think he's there at the right time. As for being a reciever heading there though?!... they've got Olympic sprinters all over that field.
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Competition breeds success and weeds out the weak. Many of the best athletes want to face competition, because, hey, if you can make it at USC or Florida or someone like that, you know you're good.
Jenkins would have had some pretty tough competition at LB at PSU, no?
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09-07-2009, 09:18 PM
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He surely would. But FLA isn't "Linebacker U". He seems more the kind you speak of that would be the success bread from the competition... I think if you're a top 10 national recruit like Jenkins, you're the BIG fish in any sized pond. Just not the case for many other recruits.
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09-08-2009, 09:25 PM
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Highlights from the Baltimore CC HS vs. Overlea game (1st game of season)....
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09-10-2009, 03:44 AM
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09-10-2009, 06:05 AM
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Competition breeds success and weeds out the weak. Many of the best athletes want to face competition, because, hey, if you can make it at USC or Florida or someone like that, you know you're good.
Jenkins would have had some pretty tough competition at LB at PSU, no?
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Competition does breed success and weed out the weak(er). Competition is good. However, in some of these super programs, you don't have to be weak to get weeded out.
I brought up the example of Corp so I'll stick with that. I'm sure Aaron Corp could start at almost college he went to. A lineman rolls up on his leg, it's a 1-2 week injury, and he's done. And by done I mean his college career is over unless Barkley gets hurt. Sorry, you picked the wrong time to get a minor injury, maybe in your next life?
As for Mustain, as joeyc brought up, he disappeared like a puff of smoke. That's the reality of signing on with a super program. The benefits are great if the stars align for you but the drawbacks can also be great. I'd just caution a young recruit to make sure they know the positives and the negatives. But, like I said before, I'm sure the sales pitch at one of these places in intoxicating.
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09-16-2009, 05:07 PM
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Second game @ Northwestern. Scored on 2 & 14 yard TD runs, returned a punt 50 yards for a TD, kicked three extra points and also had two two-point conversions.
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09-25-2009, 09:57 AM
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Coxson headed to Happy Valley -
Have any of you insiders heard any whispers about Coxson? I hope Kurelic is correct on this one.
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09-27-2009, 12:20 PM
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I hope Adrian isn't wavering cuz that game last night wasn't exactly the greatest sales pitch for the program. Yikes.
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09-27-2009, 06:05 PM
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I hope Adrian isn't wavering cuz that game last night wasn't exactly the greatest sales pitch for the program. Yikes.
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It wasn't pretty, but obviously PSU has work to do.
-Three 1st year starters on the OLine, none of which have started a game, and our two returning OLineman not at their respective position from the previous season.
-Three 1st year starters at WR.
-Two 1st year starters at DE, both sophomores (Latimore GS/RS SO, Crawford TR SO).
-Lose Michael Mauti prior to the season at LB, barely have our best '08 LB on the field this season in Bowman (prior to Iowa), and lose Sean Lee for the Iowa game.
-Four 1st year starters in the secondary, with only Wallace (CB - few starts under his belt but he isn't even starting this year) and Astorino having game reps.
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The majority of these players stepping in have sophomore eligibility, whether greyshirted (Troutman, Latimore), RSed (Powell, Moye, Latimore, Astorino, Sukay), or having true sophomore eligibility (Pannell, Crawford, Lynn). This isn't last years team, which had seniors all over the place, and we have yet to play 60 minutes of football on either side of the ball, much less a complete game in all facets. facepalm. 
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09-27-2009, 10:39 PM
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It wasn't pretty, but obviously PSU has work to do.
-Three 1st year starters on the OLine, none of which have started a game, and our two returning OLineman not at their respective position from the previous season.
-Three 1st year starters at WR.
-Two 1st year starters at DE, both sophomores (Latimore GS/RS SO, Crawford TR SO).
-Lose Michael Mauti prior to the season at LB, barely have our best '08 LB on the field this season in Bowman (prior to Iowa), and lose Sean Lee for the Iowa game.
-Four 1st year starters in the secondary, with only Wallace (CB - few starts under his belt but he isn't even starting this year) and Astorino having game reps.
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The majority of these players stepping in have sophomore eligibility, whether greyshirted (Troutman, Latimore), RSed (Powell, Moye, Latimore, Astorino, Sukay), or having true sophomore eligibility (Pannell, Crawford, Lynn). This isn't last years team, which had seniors all over the place, and we have yet to play 60 minutes of football on either side of the ball, much less a complete game in all facets. facepalm. 
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Did Stupar play in the Iowa game? I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure I saw Gbadyu (sp?) go down too. Our LB corps is taking on injuries by the boatload. Very unfortunate.
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09-28-2009, 12:55 AM
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I saw Stupar playing D...but I only remember seeing him once though. Noticed that Bani did get banged up...but I don't know what the injury was.
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[quote=AustinScottistheone;159728]It wasn't pretty, but obviously PSU has work to do.
-Three 1st year starters on the OLine, none of which have started a game, and our two returning OLineman not at their respective position from the previous season. . .
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I agree with all the things you said but this sticks out the most. If you have problems on the 0-line, you've got problems everywhere. Big problems. I'm going to remain hopeful there'll be significant improvement as the year rolls on.
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09-28-2009, 09:52 AM
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I saw Stupar playing D...but I only remember seeing him once though. Noticed that Bani did get banged up...but I don't know what the injury was.
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Bani looked like he got a stinger, but he was back out on the field a few plays later.
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